The Musings Of An Opinionated Sod [Help Me Grow!]

another fucking day in paradise eh rob?

to answer your question bhaskar, the reason the fake beach enthusiasts dont go to brighton is because they only get a day release from prison so its too far to get there and back in 24 hours. that and the fact brighton isnt so fucking good to write home about either.

englands number 1 seaside town might be a cooler place to visit than nottingham and its tourist attractions of fake beaches, a big tree with a hole in it and live gun crime theatre but its still shit.

hope that helps.

I’ve never been to Nottingham and I am sure it is a nice city, but that beach scares me to my very core.

If I lived in Melbourne, I’d be very concerned what the local council will be putting in the middle of Federation Square (is that the right name?) in a few years. 🙂

Are there any words left to describe Landor? I know they have plenty of smart people working for them, but what they charge for what they actually do and produce is criminal.

Are you still planning to do that TV show Rob? I think it would be fantastic because it might show clients the complex words, charts and expensive suits they pay for are proprietry tools of the schemer, not the brand consultant.

i cant take the credit for that bhaskar, they did it all by themfuckingselves.

I know why you would say that Freddie, but I reckon the people of Nottingham ARE the locals of Torremolinos!

Imagine if Landor used their powers for good…

If Nottingham is as dangerous as you say Rob, do you think the beach is where all the dead bodies are buried?

Good point Niko, and imagine if Santa Claus was real too. Pity they’re just dreams. 🙂

Baz is 2ft 3″, if a moth lands on his lap he’s dead – let alone some old bastard with a white beard.

i shall be shot for this, but i love the M logo and age, you need to stop reading the tabloids.

melbourne already had an M logo – several of them all lame. much more lame than the munich M logo, but not as nice as the Milan M logo. and now the logo is fuckin’ amazing. yes, fuckin’ amazing. the structure, flexibility and colour schemes are brilliant, it is classical and contemporary, which means that it will fuckin’ work as a consolidated identity. for years.

$240,000 for a complete rebrand and all that collateral is pretty reasonable, actually. for that high level of design and build. besides, sydney/australian spent millions on the olympics logo that lasted, ooh, 4 years. a public artwork in st. albans (which will probably be shit) will cost $200,000 later this year. all this focus on the cost by the media = grabbing at straws.

and the fact that it’s designed by non-melbournians means that they can be bloody objective about designing for melbourne. unlike melbournians. clearly.

i’m not going to go into nottingham – i need to go to bed, i’m cranky. obviously.

grumpy Lauren. Grumpy old lauren.

Having lived in Melbourne most of my life, I can’t really see the relevance of the logo to the city – what’s with the geometrical form – maybe I am not getting something. And if you’re going to redesign your logo in an effort to promote the merits of your city – would you not start by hiring a local agency?

PS. check out the overcast sky with dark, grey clouds looming over N’s sorry excuse for a fake beach – wonder how long the joy would have lasted in that over populated sand pit.

is this the paul who chopped his fucking finger off while mowing the lawn and bought his wife a dustbin or something equally as divorce worthy for his wifes birthday?

yeah, hes just the type to be at the shit fake beach within days. 🙂

Can I just say Andy’s comment about Lauren’s momentary period of corporate toadiness is wonderful. Sorry Lauren, but you started it. 🙂

oh, and andy dear, you’re just pissed that i destroyed your blowjob dreams. get over it.

I have to say… I agree with Lauren about the actual design. I think it sums up my city perfectly. Juanita, it’s in line with almost any building or public space thats been constructed in the last few years and is instantly Melbourne. I can see it working well.

I don’t agree with Lauren about who designed it because I think this is just as important as the product itself. The older I get the more value im starting to put on the overall “story” various things have. It’s about appreciating the process to a level where you can sit back and admire the added layers of meaning to something. What im saying is… in ten years time, i would much rather be able to say that this logo was crafted by Melburnians that were the same people that designed this, and then went on to do that, which became a big part of the city etc etc… instead of just, yeah some random dudes from a massive worldwide conglomerate did it and then went to lunch.

WTF, Safari fail. sorry!

Depth and subtlety are important but if you don’t bring it out in the work the only people who can “appreciate the process” are the ones in the boardroom who heard the whole stroy not the normal people on the street who will just see a M that looks like some Swarovski cystal shit.
You going to buy me dinner when you’re here then Rob?

That’s exactly my point Billy (I think we’re agreeing) I would have prefered if there WAS a local story to tell about this logo apart from the Landor wank. That way the normal people COULD appreciate it. People are only hating on this because of the non-Melb design and the cost. Otherwise, they’d fucking love it. Hate to say it, but Aussies are stupid like that. If this exact idea was presented by a local studio, there would be no issue at all.

That’s what i meant about “process”

Just because you are trying to sound like Andy doesn’t mean you’ll be as talented as him Billy.

Whose sucked in now? LOL.