Can Anyone Help With This Rather Urgent Request …
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March 12, 2008, 9:38 am
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Basically I’m looking for PRINT ads that convey real and powerful emotions through the body copy.
It can be an ad for any category, but it needs to make you feel the words, not just read them and preferably be related to the emotion of love or passion [of something]
Any help will be very, very gratefully received and before anyone suggests it, SIA ads are NOT appropriate!
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I thought the Raffles Hotel ads were famous for long copy a while back.
Comment by Charles Frith March 12, 2008 @ 9:56 amFor passion Wieden+Kennedy London did some pretty text-ads supporting the England rugby team (for Nike).
Comment by Seb March 12, 2008 @ 5:53 pmYou wouldn’t have a copy of the errrrrm, copy would you Seb?
Comment by Rob March 12, 2008 @ 5:54 pmnow please don’t disregard this simply because it was written by Yanks (Fallon) – or because it is a transparent piece of corporate self promotion – dressed up as selfless act of unity/support and therefore should be rightly vilified – but that said, they did a half decent job of it. Its the United Airlines full page print ad that ran after September 11th. (perhaps motivated by the fact it was their planes!)its all copy, no images. apparently everyone in the office cried when the copywriter faxed it in (yeah, right)
Comment by Mr McG March 12, 2008 @ 5:56 pmshould be on either the Fallon or United Airlines website (or the juicing the orange site)
hope that helps – by the way banana thick shakes are THE best drinks – although they go brown on your desk if you go off for a meeting and forget to take them
You don’t have a copy do you Mr McG?
And for what it’s worth, the UNITED ads are the opposite of the SIA rubbish because in your case you made things that were better than the experience whereas the opposite applies for SIA.
Besides, a friend of mine did one of the great United/Fallon ads – so I have to be loyal, ha!
Comment by Rob March 12, 2008 @ 6:07 pmI’ve just worked out who Mr McG is – how the fuck are you?
We’re catching up soon aren’t we? Can’t wait.
Comment by Rob March 12, 2008 @ 6:11 pmI’m very well sir, I have reverted to Mr McG (what my friends in london call me) as my young planner here (Lovely chap)is called stephen – and I didn’t want people to start calling him ‘little steve’ (I’m big – he’s not)
Comment by Mr McG March 12, 2008 @ 6:31 pmI have scanned in the text for you from the ad – how do I get it to you?
Thanks mate – email it to me at rob at cynical-world dot com.
You’re a legend.
Comment by Rob March 12, 2008 @ 6:43 pmOh good. I was worried you were the rubbish director McG.
The only one I can think of is the emotion of “eww”, so will have another think.
Comment by Rob Mortimer March 12, 2008 @ 6:43 pmfound your business card in my drawer – under the phone list and my can of emergency deodorant – have emailed the ad to your Cynic address – hope it helps
Comment by Mr McG March 12, 2008 @ 6:46 pmBut McG [the director] worked with Lucy Lui – he’s not all bad!
Comment by Rob March 12, 2008 @ 6:48 pmGot it – thanks alot.
Lovely stuff, some of it borders on being overly aggresive [which you can understand] and I don’t like all the ‘justification’ of the ad at the bottom [some is great, some is the usual schmaltz] but it’s brilliant, brave and genuine.
Have you seen the doco ‘The Falling Man’ – it’s a great look at how the US used ‘hero’ imagery of the terrible events of that day to establish the image of American triumph rather than American pain.
Comment by Rob March 12, 2008 @ 6:53 pmHe did. Although its Lucy Liu (also my wife’s maiden name), not Lui.
Comment by Rob Mortimer March 12, 2008 @ 7:11 pmIt’s not the spelling I’m looking at!
Comment by Rob March 12, 2008 @ 7:19 pmHaving a nickname Little Steven is not the worst thing in the world…
Being compared to the greatest sidekick since Dean Martin is not a bad days work..plus Men without Women is one of the most underrated rock albums of the last 30 years..
Being in the E Street band and in the Sopranos, nothing Little about that..
p.s. check your mail rob..some great progaganda coming your way from way back
Comment by niko March 12, 2008 @ 7:31 pmThat Falling Man doco was fucking brilliant. As was Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close – the book by Jonathan Safran Foer. If you haven’t read that, you should.
I can’t think of a specific ad, rob, but I know that quite a few years ago, there were some text-heavy ads which were by a charity here – maybe Anglicare or Red Cross, or something? Possibly Red Cross, about donating blood, maybe? And I’m still light on detail, but I have a mental image of a company doing a bunch of ads in the personals section, which were text-based. Sorry, can’t remember anything more than that – what a waste of text space that was!
Comment by lauren March 12, 2008 @ 8:02 pmNot nearly as big a waste as the crap I write each day Lauren – I’ll have a look, I amazingly think I know what you’re talking about.
And Niko – got it, it’s fantastic, thanks so much.
Comment by Rob March 12, 2008 @ 8:21 pmWhat about that stuff you wrote for Delo? It makes me violently fucking sick to compliment it, but it was really good and we all know what the reaction was from the “audience”.
Comment by Billy Whizz March 12, 2008 @ 8:27 pmI’m going to have that comment framed Billy!
Comment by Rob March 12, 2008 @ 8:34 pmCan you remember that ad Andy presented to some diamond company back in the 90’s at HHCL?
Comment by George March 12, 2008 @ 8:54 pmI can’t remember who it was but it went something like, “It’s not the way she smiles, it’s the way she frowns, it’s not the way she laughs, it’s the way she cries, it’s not the hug of hello, it’s the hug of goodbye” then ended with “The undeniable, unmistakable signs of love.”
I’m not doing it justice but it was absolutely brilliant and I am sure its the sort of thing you’re looking for. He lands in about an hour so call him and find out if he’s still got a copy because I don’t think it ever got bought.
I wonder if he could ever write something like that again? 🙂
Comment by Billy Whizz March 12, 2008 @ 8:56 pmBehave Billy …
I sort-of remember that George, but it sounds bang on so I’ll get the soppy fucker when he lands. Speak soon, see you sooner 😉
Comment by Rob March 12, 2008 @ 9:00 pmgeorge, interesting that you talk about that [beautifully-sounding] work in terms of it ‘being bought’- like an artwork. as opposed to ‘being won’ as loads of creative work is described these days. i wonder if the whole pitch process were described as a ‘commission’, whether it would change the nature of ad business in any way at all.
Comment by lauren March 12, 2008 @ 9:20 pmYou are quite right Lauren and we realised that when we first started the company which is why we always focus on what we believe is right rather than what is expected so the relationship is based more on equality than master and servant.
Comment by George March 12, 2008 @ 9:57 pmOf course it doesn’t always work out (both in winning clients or getting the idea made) but the best stuff we do is when we’re “commissioned” rather than “dictated to” which is possibly why we get away with doing things in more interesting ways than some of our peers.
Excellent point and you’ve articulated our “view” far more elequently than we ever could manage.
Following on from Lauren’s eloquence can George continue his thought and explain the philosophy in terms of what you collectively bring to the commission? I’m not being facetious, I’d seriously be interested to see how it’s specified either here (or directly via email if it’s not for public consumption).
Comment by John March 13, 2008 @ 5:40 amSorry for the delay in getting back to you John, unlike some of my colleagues, I’m not checking for updates constantly.
Comment by George March 13, 2008 @ 6:52 amWhat I am trying to articulate is that quite often we are approached by organisations who are not clients to help them out of one off situations that they find themselves in.
Rather than give us specific output deliverables, they “commission” us to achieve a specific objective deliverable (ie: a business outcome rather than purely a communication one) because they know we have a true openness in approach (including the incorporation of 3rd parties we believe enhance our vision) as well as a “shared risk” attitude which is reflected in our costs structure.
I am not explaining myself well, it’s more why we are approached than what we do and that is a byproduct of, as Lee Hill so wonderfully said, being idea neutral rather than media neutral.
I will think about this over the next few days as I haven’t given Lauren’s point any justice but I hope it gives some better indication as to what I meant previously.